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Thread ID: 58016 2005-05-19 01:55:00 Removing Residual data from Decommissioned Computers CreightonBrown (5692) Press F1
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356591 2005-05-19 04:02:00 while [ 1 ]; do cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hda; echo "Pass complete"; done

Leave it for a while, when you come back and see its done 7 passes, then you can take out your LiveCD and assume the HDD should be secure enough for the US DoD to have a go at.
Chilling_Silence (9)
356592 2005-05-19 04:05:00 while [ 1 ]; do cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hda; echo "Pass complete"; done

Leave it for a while, when you come back and see its done 7 passes, then you can take out your LiveCD and assume the HDD should be secure enough for the US DoD to have a go at.

Hey Chill, is that the same US DoD that has the really really secure servers and have been distributing secure censored PDF's of late :lol:
Murray P (44)
356593 2005-05-19 04:17:00 If I told you, I'd have to kill you..... Chilling_Silence (9)
356594 2005-05-19 05:00:00 Exactly who is trying to teach whom how to suck eggs here?

The world is divided into two classes of data users:

1) Those who have something to hide, and therefore don't need our (or any other amateur) advice on data erasure because the only way their decommissioned HDDs will ever see the light of day will be when they are reincarnated and reborn as a cloud of heifer dust.

And

2) Those who don't give a toss whether anybody reads their obsolete data (the majority).

Unless you were commissioned to write that massive epistle Creighton, I fear that the obtuse and convoluted language you have used will simply see it deep-sixed by a minor official five minutes after receipt. They already have their own experts to advise them, and they probably don't listen to them either.

Cut your losses and quit before you hit the wall.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
356595 2005-05-19 06:03:00 Oh dear. Why should anyone bother with recovering "secret" files from recycled computers? It seems to be much easier to steal laptops with un-erased disks from the secret organisations.

C-B: In general, the fewer syllables the better. If you have sent this to a minister, you should remember that many of them are like Idi Amin: able to comprehend words of one letter.

It is a good idea to link words together in such a way as to produce understable "sentences". (Excuse the technical term).

As for content ... when I see something like "... inter-record gaps may preclude proper clearing" I'm afraid I have to wonder if anything else in this document has any worth. Magnetic tapes are something I know quite a lot about.
Graham L (2)
356596 2005-05-19 11:08:00 A lot of IT companies have the attitude that the next owner is going to just format and reinstall anyway, so they think they're covered. The laptop I picked up from Turners auctions came packed full of all kinds of interesting looking corporate documentation, and some even more interesting personal data too. And it was formerly owned by an employee of a competitor of the company I work for. It wasnt a challenge either, a run of the offline nt password editor and I was in.

His manager was pretty embarrassed when I gave him a call to explain the situation and to organise for the guy to pick up the DVD of data I had burnt off for them. Last I heard, that company had decided to impliment a data destruction policy similar to ours, which is not too far off what I say below.

And Turners is auctioning off dozens of decommissioned servers and workstations regularly. With the right tools (eg UBCD, and some money) you're sitting on a data goldmine.

Unless you're super paranoid that the NSA are coming to get you, a pass or several with Autoclave or Dariks Boot n Nuke should be plenty. (You can find both of these on the ultimatebootcd, see my sig)

If you cant trust that, use heavy tools, weapons, explosives and small woodland creatures on the hdd. Justify it to onlookers as professional stress relief. Then give the remains of the HDD to the IT department of one of our military services. Apparently they drill, hammer, shoot and then MELT the hard drives. Apparently just melting a hard drive to liquid metal isnt as fun. ;)
whetu (237)
356597 2005-05-19 11:27:00 Is this guy for real? I have never read such a load of unintelligible gibberish! I just hope that no one has actually paid for it to be produced. I am not qualified to comment on the requirements for and methods of data destruction, but I think this document by itself if stored on a HDD would be enough to cause it to collapse under the weight of its incomprehensibility. :confused: :confused: Tony (4941)
356598 2005-05-19 11:59:00 angle grinder or check the link out (leoville.tv) it will give a few options.
On a side note has anyone come across ceramic platters in harddrives before?
plod (107)
356599 2005-05-19 12:05:00 I have got C-B on my Ignore list, after some v odd earlier posts. Having seen the quote earlier, and the response of Tony above, it stays so. Strange stuff ....
TonyF
TonyF (246)
356600 2005-05-19 12:34:00 I would say humour this guy, cos he sounds pretty lonely & F1 is probably the only human (virtual) contact he has, apart fom his job (if he's got one).

For my clients old HDs, I just dismantle it into pieces, give it to my nephew to smash away & bif the bits separately at different weeks... end of story - no scientific bs...
quarry (252)
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