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| Thread ID: 57963 | 2005-05-17 10:57:00 | first time start up blues | bjocque (1064) | Press F1 |
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| 356018 | 2005-05-17 11:31:00 | You have to start removing potential problems from the setup, Your first move would be to remove it from the case and power it up. (this is without any drives or pci cards plugged it). If it still "clicks off" after a minute you know its either the mobo,cpu,ram,or psu.Do the easy stuff first,Ram and psu, though its more likely to be mobo.Something is triggering the shutdown. If this minimal setup run fines then start adding items untill teh problem starts happening again, you now have your fault. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 356019 | 2005-05-17 11:39:00 | Please, first check that the CPU is seated properly with a thin (& I mean very thin) smear of paste or grease over the core. It could be a heat shut off, it may not be but you don't want to be slowly cooking a component for want of knowing. Pull the mobo out, check RAM, CPU, IDE headers, standoffs (if metalic), etc, one thing at a time. BT, thanks for clarifying that. Edit: Ah, Met's, missed you in the rush, slid right past your post. Can you make yourself a little more conspicous, wear something odd like pink fluffy slippers :thumbs: |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 356020 | 2005-05-17 11:48:00 | could well be that, i mighta been a bit heavy handed (first time building a pc) with the grease, the case temp display for graphics card seems to steady around 30 degrees c while the cpu gets to bout mid 70's before shutting down | bjocque (1064) | ||
| 356021 | 2005-05-17 11:54:00 | Try resetting the bios, take out the battery for about 30 seconds and re-pop it back in. Sometimes the FSB or timings can be interfering with the bootup cycle... It did in my case.. :2cents: |
bob_doe_nz (92) | ||
| 356022 | 2005-05-17 13:09:00 | could well be that, i mighta been a bit heavy handed (first time building a pc) with the grease, the case temp display for graphics card seems to steady around 30 degrees c while the cpu gets to bout mid 70's before shutting down What is the BIOS's thermal threshold for shutdown, looks like 70c which is quite conservative but, still way above what your CPU should be at idle or little load. However, check that CPU, it may well be heading for a fry up before it's shut down. Thermal compound should only be applied to fill the irregularities in the surfaces of the heatsink and CPU, a very thin smear less than .5mm depth is all you want. You actually want as much metal to metal contact as possible, it's way more iffecient at tranferring heat than the thermal compound which is more efficient than air (which it is replacing by filling voids). Use an old credit card or similar to wipe of excess compound and grade it out evenly. Hopefully it is just that, don't stop checking though. BTW, also check that the heatsink is on around the right way and is even, that the heatsink clip is on correctly and applying even pressure to the heatsink and CPU. |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 356023 | 2005-05-17 21:14:00 | runnnig (well trying to) a zalman cnps7000B-Cu cool instead of the standard amd heat sink, will be removing/reseating/regreasing the cpu and then progress from there i guess, cheers guys | bjocque (1064) | ||
| 356024 | 2005-05-17 21:49:00 | any preference on grease types? | bjocque (1064) | ||
| 356025 | 2005-05-17 23:09:00 | What about the little tube that came with the Zalman? You should have plenty left (is that HSF combo rated to cool an FX CPU??). Other than that, Artic Silver is supposed to be good, get it from any good computer store (including DSE). Just checked the Zalman HSF, it's fine with all AMD 64 socket 939 & 940. |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 356026 | 2005-05-18 21:18:00 | well, didn't have to remove the mobo from the case, but as good as, sorted it out to be the new you can't beat it zalman cooling fan wasn't doing sh*t!!:mad: think i knackered the 2 case temperature probes sussing that one out thought, but the beast seems to be running along nicely now with the AMD heatsink and fan attached - just gotta fdisk the raid now and then think bout updating bios (now or after os install?????) and raid controllers then installing the os, then getting sh3 up n running and its off to das boot all over the show cheers guys for your help, any suggestions on fdisking, bios updating etc??? |
bjocque (1064) | ||
| 356027 | 2005-05-18 21:36:00 | Doesnt matter whether u flash a bios before or after u install an OS . Coz u dont do it in windows anyway . Altho some systems do have programs to flash within Windows, its not a good idea to do this way . If it freezes its dead! But you would have to make a system dos disk and copy the bios update to it . Or if u have one of these ASUS systems that support ASUS EZ Flash . You just format a floppy (or any disk and delete whats on it), d/l the update rename it to whatever it says in the manual, then reboot, and press Alt F2 . . voila the BIOS is flashed . No need to make a system disk . . |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
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