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361049 2005-06-03 21:38:00 Will a DVD player that reads VCDs read VCD from a DVD disk (rather than a CD)? So then I could burn multiple videos as VCD onto 1 DVD?

And will a DVD full of MP3s be read in the same way as a CD full of MP3s?

I suspect the straight answer to this is to try it (and risk wasting a couple of blank DVDs), but I'm hoping someone here might already know ;)

Also, which format (+R or -R) is more compatible with DVD players? Or is this something that is more player specific (so I'll have to find the manuals to tell me)?

I've got a Sony DVP-NC615 and a Philips Q35. My burner software is Nero 6.6.

Mike.
Mike (15)
361050 2005-06-03 21:49:00 Yer can't say I've tried to burn a VCD on a DVD. Can't see why it wouldnt work on a DVD. Altho, with Nerovision, it looks like it only gives u the option of burning it to CD. NOT DVD.

Nero Express, if u change the cd to dvd, it'll give u the full space of the DVD.

It depends on whether the DVD you're talking about (whether its the PC DVD, or external), on whether it can play MP3's cd's as is. Not all can.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
361051 2005-06-03 21:57:00 Yer can't say I've tried to burn a VCD on a DVD. Can't see why it wouldnt work on a DVD. Altho, with Nerovision, it looks like it only gives u the option of burning it to CD. NOT DVD.

Nero Express, if u change the cd to dvd, it'll give u the full space of the DVD.

It depends on whether the DVD you're talking about (whether its the PC DVD, or external), on whether it can play MP3's cd's as is. Not all can.As for Nero it's Nero 6.6 full version, so I'll have a look at some of the options. I was thinking more along the lines of creating the VCD first (externally) and then burning (if I can get that to work). Then it'd just be a matter of getting the player to read it.

Both the DVD players play MP3s fine from CD - Whether they can read the same MP3s from DVD is what I'm unsure of...

Cheers,
Mike.
Mike (15)
361052 2005-06-03 22:12:00 It shouldnt matter what program u use to create the VCD with .

If u get Nerovision, it will burn it as a VCD .

Just as long as the format the program (whatever u use), saves it as asf, mpeg, avi, wmv, dat,dv, mod, dvr-ms .

If Nerovision can read/recognise the format, it'll burn it as a VCD to a cd . Or DVD maybe . The only thing with Nerovision is, some of the formats need plugins . Which aren't free .

I can't see why the DVD won't read MP3's on a DVD if it can read Mp3's off a CD .

If it (the DVD) can play MP3's, it should play them off cd or dvd, regardless of what the MP3's have been burned to .

The only diff (if you're burning MP3's as is), will be a DVD will hold 5 - 10x more MP3's on it . Depending on whether u have a normal DVD burner, or a dual layer burner, and use dual layer DVD blanks .
Speedy Gonzales (78)
361053 2005-06-03 22:24:00 It shouldnt matter what program u use to create the VCD with.

If u get Nerovision, it will burn it as a VCD.

Just as long as the format the program (whatever u use), saves it as asf, mpeg, avi, wmv, dat,dv, mod, dvr-ms.

If Nerovision can read/recognise the format, it'll burn it as a VCD to a cd. Or DVD maybe. The only thing with Nerovision is, some of the formats need plugins. Which aren't free. I just tried with Nerovision (set it to burn to ISO rather than to disk) - it complains that the result is bigger than a CD, but offers to burn anyway (also gives a warning that the process may fail). Started the process fine, so I'm guessing it might work. I'll burn to ISO first, then burn the ISO to disk... process was expected to take 4 hours, so I think I'll wait until tonight and set it going overnight ;)

Mike.
Mike (15)
361054 2005-06-03 22:31:00 ISO? An ISO just compresses whatever is in it into one big file .

Nothing will play it . Until u reburn it to a cd/dvd (if it will let u burn it back to a DVD) .

Not the best option to use for a VCD lol . You're just making things harder . And making more work for yourself .
Speedy Gonzales (78)
361055 2005-06-03 22:37:00 ISO? An ISO just compresses whatever is in it into one big file.

Nothing will play it. Until u reburn it to a cd/dvd (if it will let u burn it back to a DVD).

Not the best option to use for a VCD lol. You're just making things harder. And making more work for yourself.Incorrect* :) :p

Burning to ISO saves the problem of process failure during the burn process. If it successfully burns to ISO, then I can easily burn the ISO to disk. If it doesn't successfully burn to ISO then I don't waste a disk. I can also mount the ISO as a DVD on my PC and at least see if it's recognised as a VCD of sorts and played in any of the various players that play VCDs. If that doesn't work, I would imagine the DVD player won't work. That way I save the disk. The whole process doesn't get any longer or more complicated by burning to ISO, as burning from ISO to disk is a simple step.

*But I'm probably wrong ;)

Mike.
Mike (15)
361056 2005-06-03 22:44:00 Burning to iso is in reality authoring the VCD and saving to HD, Its the safest way to do it as you get the finished file and can check its size and health before burning to cd.


The issue at hand is that VCD is an authored format, You can't (or at least if you can its a bumpy road ) author numerous VCD iso's then burn them to DVD, the DVD authoring program will be expecting video (AVI,MPG) files not CD files.

If you have the video files resident on your machine simply fire up your DVD authoring program and add them all, A decent app will compress them as needed to fit the DVD.

If it can't then what I do is use my authoring program (Uead in my case) to make an iso without size restrictions, I may end up with a 10gb DVD iso, then I run the iso through DVDShrink which reduces the size to 4.7GB, And it does it with better quality then compressing down to VCD format (Mpeg1)
Metla (12)
361057 2005-06-03 22:56:00 The issue at hand is that VCD is an authored format, You can't (or at least if you can its a bumpy road ) author numerous VCD iso's then burn them to DVD, the DVD authoring program will be expecting video (AVI,MPG) files not CD files.

If you have the video files resident on your machine simply fire up your DVD authoring program and add them all, A decent app will compress them as needed to fit the DVD.I was going to create 1 VCD containing multiple videos (which VCD's apparently can handle) and then burn to ISO, and if all checks out then burn to DVD. I hadn't thought of putting them all on as a DVD - that'll probably work just as well... I'll give it a try.

Mike.
Mike (15)
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