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Thread ID: 136776	2014-04-14 02:43:00	ASB also trials NFC technology	Webdevguy (17166)	PC World Chat

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1372669	2014-04-14 14:30:00	So now you're not talking about a payment solution, your credit card cannot do that. You're talking about advertising, that's different. Stores like Z or Foodtown already support NFC payments via PayWave etc.... Do they currently support iBeacon?	Chilling_Silence (9)
1372670	2014-04-14 19:21:00	So now you're not talking about a payment solution, your credit card cannot do that. You're talking about advertising, that's different. Stores like Z or Foodtown already support NFC payments via PayWave etc.... Do they currently support iBeacon? From what I understand, Ibeacon is a payment technology. It's a "2 technologies in 1" type arrangement that enables stores to let customers locate specials instore using the gps on their phone with the help of strategically placed iBeacons in the store. They can then purchase those specials some how via their iTunes account on their phone. The downside of this system is that I could see retailers bombarding customers with location based advertising pop ups via their phones as they enter a store which doesn't sound all that appealing. I'm not sure if any stores in NZ are investigating this technology yet but I know that some big retail chain stores and some sports stadiums in the US are currently trialling the concept. Maybe more people and stores will adopt NFC technology ...?	Webdevguy (17166)
1372671	2014-04-15 00:27:00	Maybe more people and stores will adopt NFC technology ...? They already are, they're being actively pushed by both the credit card companies and the payment terminal companies too. Hell even customers who've used it are eager for places to provide it due to the convenience.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1372672	2014-04-15 01:19:00	They already are, they're being actively pushed by both the credit card companies and the payment terminal companies too. Hell even customers who've used it are eager for places to provide it due to the convenience. I would have to say that for the mind set of the average NZ shopper and the smaller size of our stores, I'm kinda guessing that NFC technology would be more suited to the "walk in, browse the aisles or wracks, choose your product/outfit/try it on, walk to the counter and pay for it" type of shopper that we are Compared to the walk into the store, get out your phone, find product, fight with other customers to get to your product, compare product prices between stores, spot a bargain in store, browse, compare, browse, then go to another store and buy product cheaper based on price comparison style shopper of the US - (potential iBeacon market) How the two compare (www.mobilepaymentstoday.com)	Webdevguy (17166)
1372673	2014-04-15 01:31:00	Oh I'm well aware of how both work. Problem is they mention it requires Android-4.0 and up, it actually became available in Android-2.3 (2.3.3 specifically if memory serves me right), so over 98% of all Android devices out there have the software support for it. Point is: All these new "stickers" are, is NFC, which is already enabled on the vast majority of all Android phones which also make up the vast majority of all devices sold in NZ. Add in to the fact there's no additional hardware from a vendor (Payment terminal) to support these, and it really is crazy they've not done something sooner. There is now absolutely zero reason for them to say "Oh it's not secure enough on the phone", when a sticker on the back is. On the phone, you can PIN-protect your device if you so desire.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1372674	2014-04-15 01:49:00	I think my Lifetime ski pass has an NFC chip in it. They just scan my pants pocket (where my wallet and ski pass are) before I get on to the lift. Much faster and easier than any previous methods.	Webdevguy (17166)
1372675	2014-04-16 13:12:00	Not sure if these links would work, some interesting facts about BLE vs NFC ... global.networldalliance.com global.networldalliance.com	Geek4414 (12000)
1372676	2014-04-16 21:32:00	Android phones do, iPhones don't because Apple is developing the iBeacon technology which doesn't require NFC chips. I only have one Android fone with NFC. The others are too old (2 years or more). The ASB method allows everyone with a fone dumb or smart to use this tech..	paulw (1826)
1372677	2014-04-16 22:43:00	Yeah but it's basically just an overglorified sticker of the same credit card you've already got, to be honest. The sticker part just makes it easy to stick to your phone so you don't have to keep it in your wallet. Having the credit-card _in_ the phone would be way cooler!	Chilling_Silence (9)
1372678	2014-04-16 22:46:00	Not sure if these links would work, some interesting facts about BLE vs NFC ... global.networldalliance.com global.networldalliance.com Yeah that first one is what Webdevguy linked in one of his articles earlier :) The second one is new, was a good read thanks :)	Chilling_Silence (9)
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