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| Thread ID: 58973 | 2005-06-17 20:34:00 | New PC advice - DDR2 vs DDR, PCI-E vs AGP | Mike (15) | Press F1 |
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| 364805 | 2005-06-17 20:34:00 | At work I'm getting a new PC. I'm down to get a P4 3.x (unsure which yet - whichever is best value at the time I suppose), but sticking to AGP and DDR. My understanding is that if you go to socket 775 or whatever it is, you have to also get PCI-E and DDR2 - is that correct? If so, is PCI-E and DDR2 better value yet than AGP and DDR (with socket 478 I guess)? Our IS dept is saying that DDR2 and PCI-E is still far more expensive than their predecessors, so that is why they're sticking with the other. Is there any advantage going with DDR2 and/or PCI-E? We do a lot of graphics (Vector and Raster - using mapping and occasionally CAD applications), and a LOT of processing, so I see it possibly being an advantage with them, but would it be that noticable? Mike. |
Mike (15) | ||
| 364806 | 2005-06-17 21:19:00 | What ever is the best value for us poor ratepayers is fine by me. lol | Andrew B (867) | ||
| 364807 | 2005-06-17 22:06:00 | PCI-Express, SATA and DDR2 were not chosen as future PC standards for their immediate advantages, but for their open-ended architecture, which opens up avenues of development that will eventually lead to much better performance than AGP/EIDE systems. | pctek (84) | ||
| 364808 | 2005-06-18 01:36:00 | nah socket 775 can be DDR and AGP. PCI-E video cards (same base model) sell roughly at the same price as AGP ones. Though I'd expect AGP prices to fall away. DDR2 RAM is more expensive than DDR but that would quickly even out as more DDR2 is produced. There is sod all real world difference between the newer standards and the older ones. I'd say your CPU would be the slowest point. But as another poster says the new standards have much room for improvement. Possibily your IS dept is doing this to save a wee bit of money (not a heck of a lot) and keep the machines more similiar - which is handy for quick replacement of parts. Most users I know just want to know why is is much noiser than their old machine and can they get it in a different colour :D |
gibler (49) | ||
| 364809 | 2005-06-18 01:42:00 | As noted the current p4 sockets do not require motherboards running DDR2, DDR2 won't have any impact untill its manufactured at speeds above current DDR specs. As for AGP Vs PCI-E, The cards are designed and manufactured for PCI-E and then bridged to AGP, meaning the PCI-E cards are cheaper. AGP cards will soon price themselves off the market and become the niche that current pci cards are (weak and expensive but still being manufactured in small quantities) Currently their is no real world advantage to go with DDR2 and PCI_E, but you would be silly not to use a modern motherboard and PCI_E. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 364810 | 2005-06-18 07:05:00 | The good 875P chipsets, DDR1 and AGP systems still beat the 925s with the same CPU type. Basically the high latency DDR2 slows them down a lot and the CPUs aren't even making full use of the high speed DDR2 because they're still only 800 FSB chips. If you really want to go Intel at this stage you could get a dual core which are pretty darn affordable for the processing power you're getting. Though I recommend a DFI nForce 3 Ultra (new out) if you still want to keep your DDR memory and AGP video card. Throw in a dual core and you've got a pretty good beast. |
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