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| Thread ID: 136906 | 2014-04-28 12:10:00 | Testing "Legal Highs" | mzee (3324) | PC World Chat |
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| 1373709 | 2014-04-29 00:28:00 | Exactly, they are much better off smoking marijuana than the synthetic crap. I'm personally pro decriminalisation of marijuana, not that I smoke it. I agree. If marijuana was legalised the price would drop as it is so easy to grow. Nobody would bother with synthetic highs. It would also save the Police from wasting time and resources on fighting a battle which they will never win. |
mzee (3324) | ||
| 1373710 | 2014-04-29 00:52:00 | You would think that seeing the low life feral users that they have had on TV news interviews the last couple of days would be enough make anyone think twice about trying that crap. | CliveM (6007) | ||
| 1373711 | 2014-04-29 02:43:00 | Refusing the decriminlise the weed while making this crap legal....I just cant see the logic of it. It must simply be down to revenue, an untapped source of tax, recreational drugs. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1373712 | 2014-04-29 02:44:00 | You would think that seeing the low life feral users that they have had on TV news interviews the last couple of days would be enough make anyone think twice about trying that crap. Doesn't seem to stop the crack smokers either. Or the huffers. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1373713 | 2014-04-29 03:50:00 | ....................... Letting people just keep coming up with new ones and selling them is craziness. There's obviously a limit to what you can legislate though, plenty of perfectly legitimate useful substances can be abused to achieve similar effects. Rewarewa leaves are pretty potent, legal and free, there for the picking, as I found out when I ran out of baccy when tramping many years ago :) |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 1373714 | 2014-04-29 06:02:00 | Can't blame National for that one Gary, with the exception of John Banks every MP in the house voted in favour of that legislation. How about using all list MPs for testing I've yet to see any other use for them no matter which party that owns them. Parliament is too bloated. Perhaps the list MPs are to give a lean gathering? ;) |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1373715 | 2014-04-29 06:48:00 | Rewarewa leaves are pretty potent, legal and free, there for the picking, as I found out when I ran out of baccy when tramping many years ago :) Dad said his father would smoke dried dock leaves if run out of baccy. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1373716 | 2014-04-29 07:33:00 | I'm a little bit confused as to what people were actually expecting to a product that's in entire purpose is to alter the state of mind. My problem is not so much with the product but with our so called law makers that thought the out come would some how be different then it is. Let's face it, if it wasn't any good people would have stuck with pot. Easier to get, no age restrictions, no hour restriction when it can be sold. No testing needed, it works as it was designed to do. No I don't touch the stuff, but have tried it once, yuk. On a side note I did sample some nice muchrooms in the weekend. |
plod (107) | ||
| 1373717 | 2014-04-29 12:49:00 | test them on National Mp's they are the ones who legalised them in the first place Well they were actually legal to start with, on account of there being no law that covered those particular substances. The legislation that was passed actually made it ILLEGAL to sell any "unapproved" psyhcoactive products and most of them were removed from sale. The remaining "lower risk" ones that are still (currently) being sold were granted interim approval until a testing framework could be put in place. The apparent evidence of greater harm than expected (either real or a media beatup picking a few edge cases as poster boys) led to a political decision to remove the interim accreditation for the remaining products and enforce the (still to be designed) testing regime to be complied with prior to any further sales. TBH I think the intent of the legislation is a fairly pragmatic approach to a difficult problem, although the implementation has been a total train wreck. The products are filling a demand - some people want to get high occasionally (and a few much more often) - and it's a demand that some much more unscrupulous people are more than happy to take advantage of. Outright bans do not work and merely create criminals, and 'open slather' is not a realistic answer either - having some degree of management of the market and baselines of quality and safety seems like a good idea to me. |
fred_fish (15241) | ||
| 1373718 | 2014-04-29 22:28:00 | One reason I have heard given for not legalising pot is the gangs would loose so much money they would have to peddle the harder drugs instead more aggressively than they do now | gary67 (56) | ||
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