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Thread ID: 150164 2021-10-04 05:48:00 Just bought my first diesel. allblack (6574) PC World Chat
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1481013 2021-10-04 05:48:00 After 55 years of mostly sensible buying decisions, I (well, the finance company) now own a oil-burner 2013 Mazda6 Ltd.

It ticked all the other boxes, and I went with it because it was NZ-new with a full service history.

I'm learning all about DPF's and RUC charges. No buyers remorse yet but just quietly wondering what I've got myself into ...

The 2.2 diesel at 420Nm pulls well though, and coming from a 3.6 Commodore it's not a huge drop in low-end power.
allblack (6574)
1481014 2021-10-04 06:17:00 Yeah I’m on my first diesel now. 3l v6 turbo). The dpf/egr etc have caused me some issues.

Namely not quite driving it enough long distances.

But for towing, climbing hills and just driving around it’s a lot of fun. I think mine works out 176kw. I came from a 3l v6 maxima.
psycik (12851)
1481015 2021-10-04 07:04:00 the weird thing with dpfs, if your not doing decent range or loads, its better to drive them a bit uneconomic, and it works out cheaper to run.
if your doing short runs, drop down a gear when going up a hill. its worse for economy but it heats the dpf up and makes it passive regen. that way it doesn't have to do a full regen which chews a lot of fuel.
if doing long enough driving, keeping rpm down keeps heat in the engine and is more economical.
tweak'e (69)
1481016 2021-10-04 19:29:00 now own a oil-burner 2013 Mazda6 Ltd.

I'm learning all about DPF's and RUC charges. .

Husband had diesel for years, he went off them, only because the price went up so much, and with the RUCs it wasn't cheap anymore.
piroska (17583)
1481017 2021-10-05 02:57:00 We currently own 2, a Ute and a SUV (yes both Diesel )

:D
beetle (243)
1481018 2021-10-05 05:18:00 Even with RUC my diesel ute is still cheaper to run than an equivalent size ute in petrol and add in the extra servicing which is now 15000Km for modern diesels and its still cheaper to run. gary67 (56)
1481019 2021-10-06 08:48:00 www.carsguide.com.au
This is quite a common problem with the 2.2 litre diesel, have seen probably 2 dozen or so over the last few years. at the dealership I work at. The problem is caused by the injector(s) coming loose in the head, and because the base is enclosed within the rocker cover, the combustion products that escape from there ends up trapped inside the rocker cover, engine oil washes this gunge into the sump, and is picked up by the oil pump pickup. This fairly rapidly blocks the pickup and causes major engine damage/failure (e.g. engine bearings, camshafts/rocker gear, turbo etc).
Best way to detect if this is happening is to get your mechanic to take the rocker cover off and look for thick black goo around where the injectors pass through the cover. And/or check your oil pressure. If there is, think about disposing of, quickly; there is another thing to look for, the camshafts will wear rapidly and chew deep grooves in some of the lobes (lack of oil pressure).
We have one in at the moment. :xmouth:
All in all, not a great engine design. :horrified:groan:

If all is ok, would recommend regular oil changes (5000 km instead of 10000km), as diesel engines dilute the oil because fuel bypasses the piston rings when running, and increases your oil level.
feersumendjinn (64)
1481020 2021-10-06 16:41:00 Phew thanks. Feeling much better now about my decision.

I hear you about the oil changes. That seems a common thing.
allblack (6574)
1481021 2021-10-07 04:29:00 I hear you about the oil changes. That seems a common thing.
stick to what the manufacture recommends. however check the "severe conditions" list to see if it applies, as it may need a different schedule.

the old 5000km/10000km oil change is often accident history. many now will do 30-40,000 km before oil change is required.
diesel diluting oil really only applies on worn out engines (typically warn out injectors). not to be mistaken for engine oil which gets thinner as the viscosity improvers break down.

however one thing to watch is some engines require very specific oil. more so with euro diesels.
tweak'e (69)
1481022 2021-10-07 05:41:00 Yep most companies now recommend oil at 15000Km gary67 (56)
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